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Divorcement Bill Of Divorcement
Same as divorce and divorce decree.
Question: Dakota:"Ban divorce unless there is severe abuse involved" VS let him write her a bill of divorcement? The right of divorce was granted by Moses as the only protection for women with husband holding the authority to grant it. Reason for this men just walked away from women before when the acted as bad as most american women do today. Men still do hold the right in Israel today. The perputal "adultry" doctrine was used by the catholic church as they lifted the womb above the cross trying to control the property rights through the inheritance laws of the roman empire.
When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favor in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
It was never Christ intention to over rule this doctrine on divorce.
"Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth".
Governments was never meant to interfer between a husband and wife letting them control marriage or divorce laws is a trap do you agree?
Answer: if divorce is banned, there will be more murders
Question: polygamy in the bible=as many women polygamy in Islam limit to 4 but our prophet was an exception because he? but our prophet was an exception because he had to take care of women left behind after their husbands, fathers and brothers died during the wars.as for the 9 Year old girl, he didn't actually touch her until she reached the age of puberty, but you cannot confuse ancient times with the modern ones, remember your greatest grandmother might have married as soon as she had reached puberty. remember that . also read this...CHRISTIAN POLYGAMY IS LEGAL! You heard it right! Christian Polygamy is legal! You can have many wives in Christian Polygamy simply by marrying one at a time in the traditional manner. You get a marriage license, and then civilly marry her. You then civilly divorce her. You then get another marriage license for the next wife, and then civilly marry her. You then civilly divorce her. You then continue to do this with each additional wife. If you do not provide any of these civilly divorced wives with a Bill of Divorcement, which is required by the Bible to be divorced.
Answer: Serial monogamy may be civily legal, but not Biblically. Yeshua specifically commanded men NOT to divorce one wife in order to marry another one. As far as a limit on the number of wives, Yahweh commanded kings not to multiply wives. He did not give a specific number. Evidently David (with more than twelve wives) did not violate that command, but Solomon did. The Biblical limit on wives is based on two factors: 1) Can you take care of them? 2) Will they lead you into sin?
Question: Me and a friend are having a debate about marriage, who is correct? She says marriage is a religious.........? institution. I say that marriage is a law contract.
Her argument is that marriage is a holy institution given to us by God. Her next argument is "then why do people get married in a church"?
My argument is that marriage is not a religious institution, but a law contract. The reason being is that everyone does not get married in a church. You do not even need a pastor or minister to marry you. A notary of the public or licensed official can marry you. Plus, to be recognized as a LEGAL couple, you must have a marriage license. Even atheists who do not believe in any higher power get married.
My next argument is that since marriage is a religious institution, why do people go to court to get divorced and not a church? If it were a religious institution, you could simply go to church in front of witnesses and proclaim a divorce, right?
The next argument I gave her was why do marriage couples get tax breaks from the federal government if it's a religious institution? This would be a violation of the separation of church and state, no?
My final argument was from the same Bible she believes in.........
Deuteronomy 24:1-3 "When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife."
I had to find the verse where it was stated, but I told her that some where in the Old Testament that Moses gave this law out. I just couldn't think of it off the top of my head at that moment (sometimes my brain works in overdrive.)
So who is correct?
Answer: Marriage is a legally binding contract that may or may not be sanctioned by a religion. Whether you are married in a judge's chambers or by a priest, it makes no difference in the eyes of the law. If it were purely religious, there would be no need to obtain a marriage license.
Question: Did Jesus change anything in the Jewish law? Matthew 5:v31 (KJV)
“It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.”
The author of “Matthew” previously had Jesus say:
5:18 (KJV) “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”
Regarding acceptable causes for divorce the Law of Deuteronomy it states the following:
24:1 (JPS) “When a man taketh a wife, and marrieth her, then it cometh to pass, if she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some unseemly thing in her, that he writeth her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house, and she departeth out of his house, and goeth and becometh another man's wife, and the latter husband hateth her, and writeth her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, who took her to be his wife; her former husband, who sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled;”
So Jesus stated that he would not change the Law, but did he change the Law regarding acceptable causes for divorce?
Answer: Jesus kept every part of God's law. The Jewish law, by his time, had man-made interpretations added on to it. Jesus had no time for those aspects which Jewish legalists tried to pin on him. If you read the context of the example you give, you will see that Jesus told his accusers that Moses had consented to divorce for reasons other than adultery due to the hard-heartedness of the Israelite men. But Jesus referred them back to the book of Genesis and God's original marriage ordinances. The example you give shows the difference between God's law and human pragmatism that soon crept in.
There are various laws and ordinances in the Old Testament. It is the Ten Commandments that have never changed, and never will, and Jesus kept God's laws perfectly.
Question: My answer to: Are you allowed to divorce? Am I right? Are you allowed to divorce? -
1 Cor 7 Verse 10: And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, let not the wife depart from her husband
Verse 12: But to the rest speak, I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not and she be pleased to dwell with him let him not put her away.
Verse 13: And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
Verse 14: For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: Else were your children unclean: But now they are holy.
Verse 15: But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: But God hath called us to peace.
Gen 2 Verse 24: Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: And they shall be one flesh.
Deut 24 Verse 1: When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: Then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Verse 2: And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
Verse 3: And if a latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
Verse 4: Her former husband, which send her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the Lord: And thou shall not cause the land to sin, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
Exo 22 Verse 16: And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.
Verse 17: If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.
Deut 22 Verse 13: If any man take a wife, and go unto her, and hate her,
Verse 14: And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:
Verse 15: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:
Verse 16: And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter umo this man to wife, and he hateth her;
Verse 17: And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.
Verse 18: And the elders of the city shall take the man and chastise him;
Verse 19: And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: And she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.
Verse 20: But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
Verse 2 1: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of the city shall stone her with stones that she die: Because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: So shalt thy put evil away from among you.
Verse 22 : If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man iay with the woman, and the woman: So shall thy put away an evil from Israel.
Verse 23: If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;
Verse 24: Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gates of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel because she cried not, being ln the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: So thou shalt put away evil from among you.
Verse 25: But if a man found a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: Then the man only that lay with her shall die:
Verse 26: But onto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: For as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
Verse 27: For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.
Verse 28: If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Verse 29: Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Deut 22 Verse 30: A man shall not take his father's wife, nor discover his father's skirt. (Nudism.)
Ecc 4 Verse 9: Two are better than one; because they have a good reward for their labour.
Verse 10: For
Answer: yes allowed to divorce his wife if she commits adultery
Matthew 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Question: How do you feel about what Jesus said about divorce in Matthew 5:31&32 ? Matthew 31&32........31 "It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.' 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.
Commentary
In the ten commandments. Adultery is sexual unfaithfulness in marriage. God intended for marriage to be a sign of fidelity, ultimately of His fidelity to us. The image of adultery is used in the Old Testament to speak of Israel’s running after other gods. God’s righteousness is right relationships between us and God and between us and others. When we are in right relationships, the relationships we were created to know and enjoy, then there will be perfect faithfulness and therefore complete vulnerability and intimacy. When a marriage is rooted in faithfulness between husband and wife, it reflects the greater, more perfect faithfulness of God to us. But our relationships are only signs, pointers. The deepest reality is God’s faithfulness to us. The deepest truth is that God will never be unfaithful to us, will never leave or divorce us. (not my words)
I think this is a very important subject touched on by Jesus & i am sure we could debate it for a long time . I have found so much information but as i am not very well i think i will just quote a few scriptures & get you views .
Deuteronomy 24:1&2 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house.And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's [wife].
Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from [her] husband committeth adultery.
can adultry be forgiven ?
Matthew 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
Matthew 6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses
1 Corinthians 6:6&7 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather [suffer yourselves to] be defrauded?
Matthew 19:3-9 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made [them] at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery
Do goverments have the power to declair someone divorced ?
Why did Jesus need to include this in his sermon on the mount ?
What are your veiws on Matt 5:31&32 ?
In this modern world do you think it is possible to keep to these scriptures with divorce laws so easy in some countries ?
Can you add any relevent scriptures ?
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I don't know you or your family .
bonnie w
Divorce was in the OT long before God sent his so Jesus to earth.
Answer: The governments have nothing to with God as they are under the control of Satan, 1John 5:19. Marriage was instituted in the Garden of Eden by Jehovah between Adam and Eve. Man is not to tear apart something ordained by God. Again, Jehovah's chief adversary, Satan is at the helm of this. The wisdom of Jesus is the wisdom of Jehovah as the father taught all things to the son. Divorce is allowed only in case of fornication or adultry. The innocent person is allowed to remarry.
Malachi 2:16 For he has hated a divorcing,” Jehovah the God of Israel has said; “and the one who with violence has covered over his garment,” Jehovah of armies has said. “And YOU must guard yourselves respecting YOUR spirit, and YOU must not deal treacherously
Question: need help please!! its about what ancient civilizations valued...URGENT!!? "When a man hath taken a wife, and married her , and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes because he hath found some uncleanliness in her; then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand and send her out of his house."
This basically means that a if a man marries a woman but doesn't love her because he has found some uncleanliness or whatever he may write a divorcement paper and send her out of the house...
now my question is what do they value? i put true love, but i don't think they really cared about that...i need your ideas please!!! anything can help!
BEST ANSWER 10 POINTS!!!!
Answer: i think it means,
the wife's uncleanliness is sum medical problem "down there" and she cannot bear a child,
a man having an heir/son was very important in ancient times.
Question: The Bible and divorce? Is it possible to see The Bible as the literal word of God, and yet still accept divorce?
So many conservative Christians accept the fact that in many cases, divorce is the best choice available, despite the pain and stress it causes to everyone involved. Yet Jesus clearly against divorce.
"And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.
"And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery."
Thoughts? (Thanks in advance for all thoughtful, respectful answers)
Evangelical Lutheran
Answer: Interesting question. And you're right--Mosaic Law allowed divorce; Christ didn't. Which is right?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and side with Christ. I prefer not getting burnt to a crisp by lightening, you see, so I'm never going to argue with the Savior.
Still, joking aside, there actually were some reasons for this.
First, you have to think of the people. Let's face it--the children of Israel had about as much spiritual understanding and depth as the average walnut. It's fairly clear that both Moses and God did not have high expectations for them, which is why they were only given lesser laws by which to live. They were allowed to divorce their wives, smite those who smote them...that whole eye for an eye thing probably didn't make for good karma, but it was their law, because it was all they could handle. By the time Christ came around, the people were capable of more, and so Christ gave them the higher laws. We've been under that law ever since, and that includes you and I. Moses' law no longer applies, and since Christ wasn't a big fan of divorce, we shouldn't be either.
Still, why was it ever allowed? You have to think about the laws those people were under. For them, adultery meant an automatic death sentence. It's not as though husbands would have dared cheat on their wives, and isn't that one of the biggest causes of divorce today? Also, for them, marriage wasn't really about love. Marriages were arranged, and love was a luxury, not a necessity. There wouldn't have been any "We just don't love each other any more"...and that's another big cause for divorce for us. Without adultery, without love--or falling out of it--being a factor, people just wouldn't have been as likely to leave each other.
I also can't see couples back then fighting like ours do. Women didn't disagree with their husbands, at least not to the point of arguing...and that's another cause of divorce today.
And then there's the fact that marriage isn't really necessary for us, at last in society's eyes. So many couples co-habitate without ever marrying, and there are plenty of couples that don't even do that. There isn't the "marriage or nothing" option for us that there was for them.
Besides, marriage was so much more serious for them. If we get divorced, nobody really cares. There isn't any real social stigma attached, but for them, divorce was HUGE. It disgraced the entire family and would never have been done lightly (just because their law gave them the option doesn't mean people often took advantage of it).
I'm not trying to justify divorce. Far from it. I personally think that divorce is only acceptable in cases of abuse or adultery. For the rest of us, if we're living as Christ would have us live, if we're working on our marriages, it's just not justifiable. After all, if a man or woman has the love and compassion Christ wants us to have, they'll be more forgiving and less likely to find and dwell on faults. They won't want to hurt their spouses by cheating or lying, and they'll be better fathers and mothers, which makes the marriage stronger in the long run. The causes of divorce just won't be there (especially the abuse). If everyone was obedient to Christ, I think divorce would never be an issue in the first place.
Question: How can you say gay's are killing marriage when it is god who is waging a war against marriage? There's a war on out there. A war on marriage. But the attack is not from gays or atheists, or even from academic feminists. It's from the Bible. Consider these verses that:
Encourage polygamy.
If he take him another wife.... -- Exodus 21:10
If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated.... -- Deuteronomy 21:15
Encourage adultery.
And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms. -- Hosea 1:2
Then said the LORD unto me, Go yet, love a woman beloved of her friend, yet an adulteress.... So I bought her to me for fifteen pieces of silver, and for an homer of barley, and an half homer of barley. -- Hosea 3:1-2
Encourage the buying and selling of wives.
And Saul said, Thus shall ye say to David, The king desireth not any dowry, but an hundred foreskins of the Philistines.... And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well.... Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife. -- 1 Samuel 18:25-27
Discourage marriage.
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. -- 1 Corinthians 7:1-2
For I would that all men were even as I myself.... I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. -- 1 Corinthians 7:7-9
Discourage sex in marriage.
But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none. -- 1 Corinthians 7:29
Encourage divorce.
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her.... -- Deuteronomy 22:13
When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. -- Deuteronomy 24:1-2
So in the war on marriage, the republicans are fighting the wrong enemy. It's not gay marriage that needs to be outlawed; it's the Bible
That one chick: Yes I did read the whole passages, why dont you do the same and then try to answer my question instead of just telling me to go home? Or is it beyond your intillectual capacity to actually answer a question that has a different view than your own.
Answer: You can't take things out of context like that you probably didn't even read the whole passage. Just go home.
Question: The Case Against Christianity? Calling all Christan's!? Exhibit A: Bible contraditctions
Jeremiah 3:12
God says I am merciful, I will not keep anger for ever.
Jeremiah 17:4
The same God says Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.
Is it wrong for a women to be divorced and remarried?
Luke 16:18
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Deuteronomy 24:1 and 2
But it says here, When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it comes to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house and when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another mans wife.
Exibit B: Prove it
We know today that the earth is round but the Bible thinks otherwise!!
Job 9:6
Which shaketh the earth out of her place and the pillars therof tremble. (This is clearly saying the earth rest on pillars).
Isaiah 11:12
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcast of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. (Four corners of the earth)??
We also know rain is cause from evaporation and condensation but the Bible says otherwise.
Genesis 7:11
the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven where open. (This is clearly saying rain is caused from God opening windows from Heaven).
Once again i have not received an answer that i am satisfied with this is not the last of me this is only the beginning. Wired you dumb son of a God no i will not be taking this to court and Midge yes i like macaroni and cheese preferable with Velveeta cheese.
Answer: Do you like macaroni and cheese?
Question: Did Jesus Believe in the Old Testament? In Deuteronomy 24:1-2, a man may divorce his wife "if she find no favor in his eyes." All the man needs to do is to write her a bill of divorcement and send her on her way.
According to Jesus, however, and depending on which Gospel you read, divorce is not permissible, or may be obtained only if the wife is guilty of fornication.
Jesus' disciples asked Him about the Law of Moses, which permitted divorce at the whim of the husband. Jesus responded, "Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so." Matthew 19:8.
So, in other words, the Old Testament is wrong! Jesus repudiated it.
How do we know how much of the rest of the Old Testament is valid?
Maybe the ancient Jewish people were hard-hearted homophobes too, and verses which appear to condemn homosexuality are invalid too? If Jesus has impeached the validity of one part of the Old Testament, where does it stop? How can we know if any part of it is valid?
Answer: Fortunately, I had my brief response already saved to my computer.
With respect to the issue of marriage, the Pharisees had all agreed that divorce ("putting away") was permitted based on Deuteronomy 24:1, but they disagreed to what extent it was permitted. Indeed, the oral Torah (Talmud) devotes an entire tractate to the subject ("Gittin," that is "Divorces"). Despite this, the solemnity and sanctity of marriage was considered paramount.[1]
The argument among the Pharisees concerned the meaning of the Hebrew phrase ervat davar [עֶרְוַת דָּבָר] found in Deut. 24:1. The school of Hillel contended that divorce was permitted even if a man's wife burnt his food. Rabbi Akiva asserted that a man could divorce his wife even if he found another woman more beautiful than his wife. The school of Shammai contended that a man was permitted to divorce his only for adultery.[2]
The Pharisees attempted to bait Yeshua by asking him whether it was permissible to divorce one's wife. The Pharisees more often sided with the school of Hillel in disputations, but the Messiah sided with the school of Shammai by informing the Pharisees that Moshe had only allowed divorce due to the hardness of their hearts, but marriage itself had been ordained of God to be an eternal covenant from the beginning, for the two had become one flesh, and what God had joined together, no man was permitted to sever.[3] Ultimately, the Messiah allowed divorce only in cases of adultery, the same opinion held by the school of Shammai.[4]
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[1] Tractate Gittin ("Divorces"), Folio 90b, has the following remark toward the end: Rabbi Eleazar said, "If a man divorces his first wife, even the [Temple] altar sheds tears."
[2] Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Gittin, Folio 90b
[3] Matt. 19:5-6; Mark 10:8-9 cp. Gen. 2:24
[4] Matt. 5:31-32
You should pay more attention to Yeshua's response than trying to prove that he repudiated the Torah, because the simple fact of the matter is, he was RIGHT. In the beginning, God did not ordain divorce, and in fact, God hates it! (Mal. 2:16) Nothing Yeshua said contradicted Torah.
Question: In Christianity, Do second marriage is like commiting adultery? As per Deut 24:1
When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
It says only on the reason on unfaithful. But what if divorce happens due other reasons and one gets married with divorced woman or man. Do the second marriage is considered to be an adultery?
Answer: God's Will for Marriages
The one question I am asked most often relates to divorce and remarriage (ie. "Getting on with one's life").
Many standers are criticized for praying that their marriages will be healed even by fellow Christians. These standers are said to be "in denial" and fighting a losing battle."Let us review what God's Word has to say on the subject of divorce and remarriage.
"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh." Genesis 2:24
God's plan has always been for one man/one woman for life. This is his ideal
"The Lord God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him." Genesis 2:18
With this, God took a rib from Adam's side and made woman (Gen. 2:20-23).
God gave marriage as a gift to Adam and Eve. They were created perfect for each other. Marriage was not a creation of man or any culture, but of God. Yet in today's society, our culture is forming our views of marriage. Marriage today is far from God's original design. Family and spouses are
disposed of like yesterday's trash. But what does God's Word have to say about this?
"Have we not all one Father? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our fathers by breaking faith with one another? Another thing you do: You flood the Lord's altar with tears. You weep and wail because he no longer pays attention to your offerings or accepts them with
pleasure from your hands. You ask, 'Why?' It is because the Lord is acting as the witness between you and the wife of your youth, because you have broken faith with her, though she is your partner, the wife of your marriage covenant. Has not the Lord made them one? In flesh and spirit they are his.
And why one? Because he was seeking godly offspring. So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith with the wife of your youth. 'I hate divorce,' says the Lord God of Israel. So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith." Malachi 2:10-16
God's Word is clear on divorce; He hates it! Also, note that the Lord does not hear the prayers of those that have broken the marriage covenant with their wives. God takes marriage very seriously, should not we do the same? But you say that divorce was allowed in the Old Testament.
Jesus addressed this by saying:
"'Haven't you read,' he replied, 'that at the beginning the Creator made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh?' So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined
together, let man not separate. 'Why then,' they asked, 'did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?' Jesus replied, 'Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.'" Matthew 19:4-8
Jesus is clear on the subject of no divorce "except for marital
unfaithfulness. " This clause is used by many to justify divorcing a spouse guilty of adultery. But the original Greek text used the word "porneia" to describe this act of unfaithfulness. What does porneia mean in the context
of Jewish society at the time that Jesus made this statement? Jewish custom in the time of Jesus was for the bridegroom to pay a dowry to the father of the bride for the economic loss to his family (People had children in those
days to help tend the flock, work in the fields and carry water!). Once the dowry was paid, a betrothal or promise of marriage was made. Rings were exchanged and vows were spoken at this time, but the marriage was not consummated. At least twelve months passed between the betrothal and the
actual wedding. This waiting period was a time for the bride to gather her wardrobe and prepare herself for marriage. The bridegroom would likewise prepare the living quarters in his father's house for the bride. Once the waiting period was over, the bride would be led in procession with her family, friends and guests by torchlight to the house of the bridegroom. The marriage was pronounced and legal documents signed. During the wedding feast the bride and groom would slip into the bridal chamber and consummate the marriage. If the bride was found not to be a virgin at this time, the husband could legally "divorce" his wife due to her unfaithfulness. This is the meaning of porneia as used in this text. (Janetrmi here....the guilty party was usually stoned to death, thus freeing the innocent party to remarry.)
Under Jewish custom, the betrothal was a legally binding contract, which could only be broken by death or formal divorce. Betrothal was as binding as marriage. According to this view of the exception clause in Matthew 19:8, divorce was only permitted during the betrothal period, but once the
marriage was consummated, then only death could break the union:
"By law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is
not an adulteress, even though she marries another man." Romans 7:2-3
So then, the Bible is clear that marriage is a permanent covenant, only to be broken by death of one of the spouses. In spite of clear doctrine to support no divorce, divorce still happens. What if you are a victim of divorce against your wishes? What does the Bible have to say about this?
"To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife."
1 Corinthians 7:10-11
If you are divorced, you only have two options: remain single or reconcile with your spouse. Remarriage is not an option for a believer. Today people debate the issue, "Is it right to divorce and remarry?" Note that Jesus dealt with the issue, "Is it right for people to divorce?" That is quite a
contrast! We have strayed far from God's Word. It saddens me to see the number of professing Christians that are divorcing and remarrying. It utterly sickens me to see fellow Christians criticizing a person standing for the healing of their marriage. We are called to encourage one another and to build each other up (1 Thessalonians 5:11). These well-meaning Christians are just as deceived as the prodigal spouses that have left families behind. It is time for the body of believers to get back to God's ideal for marriage and stop the rampant divorce rate throughout the world. As believers, we are responsible to follow and obey the teachings of Jesus:
"If you love me, you will keep my commandments. " John 14:15
How much simpler could it be?
Dennis Winfield
Question: Dakota are you prepared to live or die on your own faith and walk with God or what men have told you? Your Question
Dakota:"let him write her a bill of divorcement?
Jesus Christ has never changed from the alpha of the bible to the omega of the bible. He has ordered men to divorce wives or he would kill them (both husband and wife).
The perputal doctrine on adultry used by Rome and first century apostates (jezebel wannabes) is a lame attempt to lift up the womb higher than the cross.
I paid a high price in learning that
http://en.netlog.com/groups/enochrodofir…
Answer: The bitterest herb we can swallow is our own pride at our own importance in the eyes of others.
Question: The Bible & Marriage.? When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. [Deuteronomy 24:1-2]
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Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery. [Luke 16:18]
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God seems confused about divorce laws in the Bible.
Answer: I agree. I think that whole "oh well Jesus coming erased all the old testament stuff. Except the 10 commandments. And the whole thing that you inherit sin. And the thing about how ... " and so on
Is
A
Crock.
They just like to twist things to suit themselves.
Question: Should Christian marriage be banned? Christians claim that the Bible condemns gay marriage. It doesn't*.
The Bible says nothing at all about gay marriage. But it has plenty to say about Christian "marriage."
1. The Bible says that Christians should not marry.
(God doesn't want Christians to marry. We shouldn't either.)
Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife. 1 Corinthians 7:27
For I would that all men were even as I myself.... I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 1 Corinthians 7:7-9
2. But if a Christian man decides to get married (which he shouldn't), he can have more than one wife.
If he take him another wife.... Exodus 21:10
3. And if he doesn't like one of his wives (like if she's unclean or ugly or something), he can divorce her.
When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. Deuteronomy 24:1
4. If a Christian man gets married and then discovers on his wedding night that his new wife is not a virgin, then he and the other Christian men must stone her to death.
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate.... But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you. Deuteronomy 22:13-17
5. Christians shouldn't have sex (even if they are married, which they shouldn't be).
But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none. 1 Corinthians 7:29
It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 1 Corinthians 7:1-2
6. Christian parents must beat their children (which they shouldn't have, since they shouldn't get married or have sex).
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. Proverbs 13:24
Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying. Proverbs 19:18
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him. Proverbs 22:15
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:13-14
7. Good Christians must hate their families.
(If you abandon them for Jesus, he'll give you a big reward.)
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26
And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. Mattthew 19:29
8. And kill their disobedient children.
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother ... Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 21:18-21
He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. Exodus 21:15
He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. Exodus 21:17
For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. Leviticus 20:9
God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. Matthew 15:4
9. And kill their families, if they have religiously incorrect ideas.
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the peop
Answer: Any type of marriage should be allowed as long as both parties have a choice.
Question: Christianity- Divorce and remarriage? Hey all im quite confused by the contradictions to do with divorce and remarriage in the bible and want to know your views on it.
“When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man’s wife.” (Deuteronomy 24:1-2) ..agreeing with remarriage.
Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.� (Mark 10:11)
Disagreeing....
I also know that priests from a catholic church will not remarry a couple. That doesn't seem right to me, any thoughts?
Also notice how the first quote is quite sexist.
KK- how is this not an issue if christianity if your faith and they wont let you remarry in a church of your faith and passages of your faith disagree with what you wish to do. Either A you didnt read it all and understand it or B you are a idiot who hasnt a clue in the slightest
No chance without jesus, i unerstand where you are coming from though you cant really say that if christianity teach the old testiment (the story of adam and eve, the garden- it's in every king james bible old and new.)
Answer: Just about everything you find in the bible is inconsistent with the rest of it.
Question: Why don't more Christians memorize The 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)? I'm a Christian, I understand we get Salvation from Jesus, but we should still study the Law.
YES, the Laws for sacrifices no longer apply and neither do most of the Temple Laws. YES, most of the food Prohibitions no longer apply either.
But, there are a lot of Laws that still DO apply that a lot of Christians don't seem to be aware of.
It is obvious tattoos are not something that should be done by Christians, but some don't seem to be aware there's an actual Commandment forbidding it.
-Leviticus 19:28
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
On Easter, we watch on TV both the Exodus from Egypt as well as the Crucifixion of Christ. The same way God (Jesus) saved the Jews from Egypt (sin), and took them out into The Promised Land. Jesus saves the whole word from sin, and gives us everlasting life for whoever believes in Him.
But people seem not to be aware there's a Commandment telling us to remember the Exodus during Passover (15th of Nisan on the Jewish Calendar.)
-Exodus 13:8
And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the LORD did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt.
Divorce is everywhere in the USA, but few ever read what the Bible says about it. The Bible calls for a legal process. It's not an easy process, there are acceptable an unacceptable circumstances for a divorce. If you wanna know more, read The 613 Mitzvot.
-Deuteronomy 24:1
When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Today in the USA, psychics and séances are ever so popular. But few Christians ever quote this verse.
-Leviticus 19:31
Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.
I'm no expert, this may apply only to the Temple, but considering the pagan origins of the tradition of the Christmas Tree, I think this Commandment is applicable.
-Deuteronomy 16:21
Thou shalt not plant thee a grove of any trees near unto the altar of the LORD thy God, which thou shalt make thee.
Today we are going through a difficult recession, but that doesn't give employers to cheat on their employees.
-Leviticus 19:13
Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
There's so much to learn from learning the 613 Mitzvot. My mother and was not happy when I bought, and began memorizing one of the several books that list The 613 Mitzvot. Most of these books are found under the Judaism section, not the Christian section.
YES, we are saved by grace by Jesus. But we need to know right from wrong, we can’t just guess.
Let’s more of us Christians learn The 613 Mitzvot!!!
Answer: I skimmed over this, I'll go with my answer of No.
Question: Is divorce allowed in Christianity? Divorce is never permissible?
Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Matthew 19:6
Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery. -- Mark 10:11
Whosoever putteth away his wife and marrieth another, committeth adultery. -- Luke 16:18
Only when the wife is unfaithful?
Whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery. -- Matthew 5:32
Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery. -- Matthew 19:9
When the 'unbelieving' partner chooses to leave?
But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. -- 1 Corinthinians 7:15
When the husband is displeased with his wife
When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. -- Deuteronomy 24:1-2
Answer: Christians don't really pay a whole lot of attention to the whole bible. They cherry pick wish ones to follow or ignore. That is nothing, try to get them to explain all this.
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Question: Why don't more Christians memorize The 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)? I'm a Christian, I understand we get Salvation from Jesus, but we should still study the Law.
YES, the Laws for sacrifices no longer apply and neither do most of the Temple Laws. YES, most of the food Prohibitions no longer apply either.
But, there are a lot of Laws that still DO apply that a lot of Christians don't seem to be aware of.
It is obvious tattoos are not something that should be done by Christians, but some don't seem to be aware there's an actual Commandment forbidding it.
-Leviticus 19:28
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
On Easter, we watch on TV both the Exodus from Egypt as well as the Crucifixion of Christ. The same way God (Jesus) saved the Jews from Egypt (sin), and took them out into The Promised Land. Jesus saves the whole word from sin, and gives us everlasting life for whoever believes in Him.
But people seem not to be aware there's a Commandment telling us to remember the Exodus during Passover (15th of Nisan on the Jewish Calendar.)
-Exodus 13:8
And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the LORD did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt.
Divorce is everywhere in the USA, but few ever read what the Bible says about it. The Bible calls for a legal process. It's not an easy process, there are acceptable an unacceptable circumstances for a divorce. If you wanna know more, read The 613 Mitzvot.
-Deuteronomy 24:1
When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Today in the USA, psychics and séances are ever so popular. But few Christians ever quote this verse.
-Leviticus 19:31
Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.
I'm no expert, this may apply only to the Temple, but considering the pagan origins of the tradition of the Christmas Tree, I think this Commandment is applicable.
-Deuteronomy 16:21
Thou shalt not plant thee a grove of any trees near unto the altar of the LORD thy God, which thou shalt make thee.
Today we are going through a difficult recession, but that doesn't give employers to cheat on their employees.
-Leviticus 19:13
Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
There's so much to learn from learning the 613 Mitzvot. My mother and was not happy when I bought, and began memorizing one of the several books that list The 613 Mitzvot. Most of these books are found under the Judaism section, not the Christian section.
YES, we are saved by grace by Jesus. But we need to know right from wrong, we can’t just guess.
Let’s more of us Christians learn The 613 Mitzvot!!!
Answer: Well, for one thing, many of the Mitzvot were intended for the temple priests and have nothing to do with the followers of the Messiah. For another, many churches are erroneously teaching that Torah was done away with, completely skipping over Matthew 5:17-19. It's beyond tragic, because Yeshua/Jesus is our LIVING Torah. He walked on earth to show us how to live Torah as He did. I often wonder how people can say they follow Him, yet they don't even keep His Sabbath.
Shalom and blessings to you,
D1
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