Putative Father Registry

Question: Did the natural father have to register with the OR putative father registry? Hello again. Quick question. My baby was conceived in California and born in Hawaii, but the adoptive couple lives in Oregon. The father did not sign consent forms. Under HI law, the father must give consent, but under OR law, the father has no rights unless he signed up with the registry. Why would someone sign up in the registry of a state that neither he nor the natural mother was ever in though? Did he have to sign up in the registry or does HI law apply since they baby was born here?

Answer: I'm confused. Are you that baby? If so, it probably depend when you were born. I was born in the early 60's, and there was NO permission needed from my father at all. In fact, even though he was my mother's boyfriend for 5 years at that time, he isn't even on my original birth certificate.

Question: Men Only: Ever file with a putative father registry? For men who have had premarital sex. Ever file with a putative father registry? Ever get in trouble for not doing so? Do you know what I am talking about? I'm trying to determine how many people actually now about them.

Answer: I used to go to conservative churches that teach that abstinence crap, and I learned that the leaders of these churches actually crack jokes about 30 and 40 year-old virgins behind their backs. Now I just send my Christian friends to the site below which debunks the whole thing against premarital sex in the Bible. It covers same-sex lifestyles too. I hope it helps you.

Question: Should a Man Sign a Putative Father Registry every time he has sex? Just in case it produces a little one that is hidden from him and given away for adoption? Why do fathers have no automatic parental rights to their own child? Why do they have to 'claim' what is already theirs by nature? ETA: "FYI it's punitive LOL" Actually it's putative. Thanks for the laugh though. "all intensive purposes" I take it you mean all intents and purposes bawahahahah

Answer: I'm going to get a bunch of thumbs down for this but I think the Putative Fathers Registries are ridiculous! They are a violation of human rights as far as I'm concerned. While yes, I agree, if a man really gives a hoot he'll be there, the truth is it isn't always or just the man who is "irresponsible" and or leaves. There are entirely too many cases of men losing their children because they were not told they had a child at all. It is ridiculous to have someone "register" every time they have an orgasm - because let's face it - there have also been plenty of cases where men's bio materials have been stolen/collected/etc. and babies made without intercourse as well and a man cannot be sure that some crazy person hasn't "collected" a condom from the trash. I have three sons also, and I think it is disgusting that I could lose a grandchild because someone decides that my son didn't register or didn't register in the right place! (Yes, there have been cases where men have registered in but the woman went to ANOTHER state and his registering made no difference! Guys have to register in the state that the child is BORN in! Really fair!!) I think if BOTH sexes need to be responsible for WHO we have intercourse with. I also think that fathers should be able to claim their children (when there is questionable parentage) through DNA testing and allowing them to show that they are willing to parent. I think fathers get a raw deal. I also think that if I were a child who found out that I was secreted away (because he didn't sign "The Registry!") so that my father who wanted me couldn't have the opportunity to be my Dad, I'd be pretty pissed! JMHO. ETA: Lots of men get screwed with the child support/custody system too. Not all Dads are deadbeats! There are many problems with the "system": *Custody & Visitation are separate from "Support Obligations" and one has WAAAAAY more money and legal support than the other - guess which one! Many loving non-custodial Fathers (& Mothers) pay regular support but are alienated from their children (without due cause) and with little recourse. *There is no accountability for the money that is sent in support of a child - a father has no guarantee that the "support" money is ever spent ON the child. There are some custodial parents who do not use the money they receive for their children for the proper things, but instead use it for luxury items for themselves and their new partners. * The child support/custody system, as it is, pits parents against each other instead of requiring them to work together for the benefit of their child. This is not healthy for children!!! I could go on but this is a discussion for another day.... Google father's rights, child support issues, non-custodial parental rights, etc. etc. etc. This is another example of how we are letting families down in the USA! http://pfcr.childrensjustice.org/Article… http://www.cffpp.org/index.html http://www.childcustodycoach.com/child-s… http://www.supportthemovie.com/

Question: What do you think about the Putative Father Registry laws that we have? For those who are not familiar with Putative Father Registry laws, these laws allow unmarried men and women who have had heterosexual sex to have equal opportunity in having a child. Here's an example to help explain what I mean. Say I go and have a one night stand with random girl X from a club. A couple of months later, I find that the girl is pregnant and she has the child. She decides to give the child up for adoption because she doesn't want it. You find out that she is going to send the child to adoption but you can't stop it because you are not the registered father with that child. This law allows you to sign up with the state so that those who want to take care of their children, mostly men in this case, are able to do so. Another example would be having a random sex encouter with a woman, she gets pregnant and then marries another man. The child is obviously not the married man's child but my child (Using me as an example again). So I keep in contact with my child, I'm always there for my kid, I help with child support, etc..and I Do this because I want to be that child's father. Well the woman and the other man take me to court and want full custody of the child. Now I didn't register with the state to say that I am the father and as a result, they are awarded full rights to our child (the woman and mine) while I lose out on the opportunity to watch my child grow up. This law, again, allows equal provisions for a couple, who have had sex without being married or anything, to be treated as if they WERE married and granted the same rights as if they were married. Do you feel that Putative Father Registry laws are fair? Is this one of the ways men, who absolutely love their children, get their equal rights provided to them in family law? I welcome your answers. I feel like being smart today Mrs. 0 lol You know Reb, to be honest...I don't think it is in our state. Some of the states have it though..like Virginia, Missouri, maybe Florida and even Indiana...I'm not too sure but I do know there are some states that have this law.

Answer: Any man who has heterosexual sex or any may who MAY be the father would have to register for it to be completely effective. What about the men who don't know the woman became pregnant? Or the men who don't know about this registry? It's a sad state of affairs isn't it. I guess it's a step in the right direction but I personally find it baffling.

Question: Should All Fathers Sign the Utah Putative Fathers Registry? Even if they or the child's birthmother are not from that State, Just in Case the agency has flown the mother out there to give birth? This seems to be happening ALOT and father's rights are being walked all over. If they sign the registry in their own State (if one even exists) and are not aware that the mothers are giving birth in Utah, they are SOL. Dads are losing their kids because of this.

Answer: The trouble with Utah is that Utah is the Church, and the Church is Utah. Incestuous? You betcha. The Church is affiliated with the agency that is creating all these problems. The Church HATES bad publicity. It's time to SUE them.

Question: What is Putative Father Registry?

Answer: It's a public record part of a state's Department of Vital Records where a father can register his name and information if he wants to acknowledge paternity of a child if he believes he is the father. It establishes a claim and asserts his legal rights as a parent. It's for if a man is not married to the mother and they are not in a relationship but he wants to raise the baby or have parental rights such as visitation. If he opposes a planned adoption, he has to come forward and say he is the father to have rights. It's a step in the right direction but it's not really enough because many states have a short window before a father can assert parental rights, such as 30 days after the baby is born and I believe the notification requirements in most states are on the level of posting a public notise in a newspaper, like a notise of a legal name change. And yes it happens all the time that a man finds out years later that he had a child that was placed for adoption and he had no idea and would have wanted to be a father if he had known.

Question: does california have a california putative father's registry? googled it and had no luck.

Answer: No, California does not have a putative father registry. So far, 23 states have registries. I put a link below that lists all the states that do and do not have a registry.

Question: Who Agrees With The Putative Fathers Registry? Apparently my kids can be adopted without my consent because I didnt Register within 30 days after my babies birth. The person adopting now has more rights than me. In a world where there are so many birth fathers running away, this Registry is a major blow to us that want to take responsibility. All the Registry does is provide the name and location of the possible father so in the case of an adoption petition, the person will be notified. Thats all, then he can contest. It meens nothing more. It does not protect birth fathers rights. Imagine the money it costs the tax payers to keep a program like this running that really doesnt accomplish much. If you sign the registry and 2 years down the road the petitioner cant find you they will go ahead with the adoption anyway and just publish it in the newspaper. So Guys, everytime you have sex, register and read the newspapers daily in every town you have sex for the rest of your natural live.

Answer: The registry is a horrible idea... especially for those parents who don't know about it. If your DNA matches your child's, then you are the father and since you are more than willing to take responsibility, there should be no question... even if you do live far away from your children. Good luck!

Question: Should "Putative Father" registries be abolished? So, on my last question, it seemed that some people thought it was OK to take/adopt a baby without the father's permission if he didn't sign the Putative Father registry in the state where the baby was born (note, the mother can go to a state where this is the law to deliver without ever informing the father she is there). As one person put it, "Too bad. That's the law." Not all states have these registries. Only about half of the states in the US have them. In a number of these states, the law says that lack of knowledge of the need to register, is not considered a good enough reason for a father to get his rights to his baby after the baby has been born. I ask you, is this right? If a father doesn't know he needs to register, or the mother takes off and moves to another state without his knowledge, it this a reason for him to lose his parental rights? Should abolishing Putative father registries be a top priority for adoption reform? Just FYI, I've added a link that lists the states where these registries exist. http://adoption.about.com/cs/adoptionrig…

Answer: Why should a man have to register that he slept with a woman in order to claim paternity of any children she may bear when he actually WANTS to parent? DNA can prove it just fine if there's any doubt. When it comes to determining paternity for child support, a DNA test is considered adequate. Putative Father registries are part of the misandrist laws designed to get those pesky fathers out of the way -- unless, of course, they're needed for child support purposes. These registries allow men who haven't signed them to be viewed as uncaring, uninvolved and unfit, even if this isn't the case. Just as with mothers, fathers should be required to sign relinquishment documents in order to have their parental rights terminated, unless there is founded abuse leading to a court severing his parental rights involuntarily.

Question: What do you think of putative father registries? After doing a bit of research I've come to the conclusion that putative father registries are total piggy poop. http://adoption.about.com/cs/adoptionrig… The above article really got me thinking but the last passage hit me like a ton of bricks; : A wounded G.I. has just returned from Operation Desert Sandblast to learn that he had gotten his fiance pregnant, but that she had married someone else and the husband had adopted the child. His lawyer counsels him: “Everyone appreciates you for risking your life for our country--and getting your arm blown off--but about your child, well--I wish we could help you, but unfortunately you didn’t sign the putative father registry.” And I hear the G.I. give his completely predictable response, while mentally clutching his Purple Heart: “The what?” Your opinions?

Answer: They are a joke, and agencies know this.

Question: MEN, are you aware of putative father registries? Did you know that if you live in a state with one of these registries, and you get a woman that isn't you wife pregnant, you must register that you are the father or you will lose all rights to your child? Some states even say that ignorance of the pregnancy or the need to register is no excuse, and you will lose your rights anyway. Here is a list of the states with these registries: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, and Wyoming. Have you heard of this? If so, where or how did you hear of it?

Answer: I learn more every day. It's disgusting. Am suprised to see so-called 'progressive' states like MA & MN on the list. Just awful!

Question: what is the putative fathers registry, and should i register if i am seeking joint custody from my ex?

Answer: that registry is for men who have a child out there that may have been placed for adoption, or potentially placed for adoption. You don't need to register on it.

Question: Adoption without putative fathers knowledge.? What if a mother hides her pregnancy. One year later brings photos and says this is your baby, i gave it up for adoption. Is there any way to get custody of the child even after it is a year to late to sign the putative father registry? Do putative fathers have any rights at all? Sorry,should add i am in Idaho.

Answer: The father could put up one hell of a fight about it. If he never gave up his rights to the child then the adoption was illegal. Proving that might be a bit difficult but worth it if the father wants the child.

Question: How do we add the father to an Alaska birth certificate when the mother doesn't want him there? Long winded question, but my boyfriend has an 11 month old son with his ex girlfriend. She refused to add him to the birth certificate as his father, but she did give his son his last name. He has supported them financially up untill recently as she quit letting him see his son. She is now saying that she will never add him to the birth certificate, she is changing his name (regardless) and he'll be able to talk to his son again, unless he gives her money. We live in Arkansas, she lives in Alaska. We're sick of her making demands for the father to do this and that, while dangeling his son over him. We want to fight for rights for his son. We want his name added to the birth certificate. What do we do? We've heard of the putative father registry, but I don't think they have that in Alaska. Someone please help before she changes his name and adds her boyfriend to the birth certificate. What do we do?

Answer: Wow, that is the same thing I went thru with my ex. except, my daughter is now 17 and doesn't know who I am. The icing on the cake is that unless there is a fathers name or 'unknown' on the birth cert the bc is not valid. My daughter needed hers to get her drivers license but couldn't because there wasn't a valid bc. It was nice to hear her games came back to bite her in the a.. Good luck, it's a tough situation. Call a lawyer in Alaska for advice.

Question: What's the easiest & most cost efficient way to make a non-biological father the legal father in Missouri? I have a 9 wk. old daughter. The biological father is not involved, has a criminal history and a severe & chronic drinking problem, and is not on the birth certificate. My ex-husband of 6 years has become a close friend since our divorce and we have reconciled. He was w/me throughout my pregnancy, was present during my delivery, and his been a wonderful daddy to my daughter since her birth. He has also been a wonderful father to the daughter we have together. We are interested in making him the legal father. I don't believe the biological father has added his name to the putative father registry.

Answer: adoption.

Question: can my ex-husband adopt my daughter, since her real dad is not on the birth certificate and he never? registered with the putative father registry ten days after she was born in the state of New Mexico?

Answer: I'm pretty sure, depending on the state, that you have to establish paternity before you can do the adoption.

Question: how to prevent adoption. father's rights in california? My brother made a mistake and got his girlfriend pregnant. Her family is treating him like he doesn't have rights to the baby. Her sister can't bear children and has already said that she would like to adopt if they can't handle a child. My brother plans on going into the military to support his baby but his girlfriend has been saying "I don't want this baby if you won't be here!". He really wants to raise his baby but as far as I am aware, California does not have a putative father's registry. Her family is not a good option for this baby, the cops have been called because her mother or brother have beaten her but she refuses to leave them and we're all really worried about our new little family member being in an abusive household. Adoption is not something that any of us agree with and in my brother's eyes, its the worst thing that could possibly happen to his baby. How does a man in California protect his parental rights before the baby is born in October? Hes trying to be vigilant with his job but because California's job market is especially rough, they've cut his hours real low; too low to support a baby on. Thats why he wants to go to the airforce. Unfortunately his girlfriend is really vindictive, shes been using the baby as a way to manipulate my brother, threatening to terminate her pregnancy or give her baby to her sister if he goes to the military. She expects him to just "get a better job". He does go to all of her prenatal appointments, would affidavits from her ob/gyn be good proof of his support?

Answer: You're right, California doesn't have a putative fathers registry. The law references a "voluntary declaration of paternity" but it appears the mother needs to sign the document as well. If you look for California in this document you'll see the somewhat confusing laws: http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/l… Are there attorneys in his area who will do pro bono work to help your brother establish his paternal rights? He needs to get legal advice quickly.

Question: a question for fathers? ever heard of the putative father registry? any experiences would be appreciated. ( no kricket this isnt for you to answer)

Answer: This is a registry for Fathers whose former wife is denying him the right to his children. The father can get help on legal matters and information about what he can and can't do. In my opinion if he does what he knows is right he won't need this service because his family will stay in tact. Any man can be a father but a real man makes for a good daddy.

Question: Can anyone tell me....? i live in the state of florida. i have 2 1/2 twin boys who were fathered by a 'dead beat'. he was abusive to my dogs and me, he made threats while i was pregnant, etc. i broke up with him while i was pregnant, and because of his threats, i felt it necessary for him to not be at the hospital when the babies were born. from the time they were born, we were told he has rights because we know he is the father and because doctor's records show his name as the father. so we made it clear to him, if he wants to see them, he needs to make the effort. so it started as a half hour once a month, and increased to an hour twice a month (this is all the time he wants with them, there is no other communication of effort for him to see them) now i am married to a man who was involved in my children's lives since they were 7 months old, we went to a lawyer to find out how to go about with him adopting my children. he said because my 'sperm donor' is not on the birth certificate, never took any legal action for custody or child support, and never claimed to be the biological father with the florida putative father registry, that technically, the father of my children is unknown. we went through with the adoption, and the judge granted it, so all the paper work says my husband is now the father and their last names have been changed (they had my maiden name as their last). my mother is worried that because the 'sperm donor' was not notified, that when he does catch wind of this, he will be able to take this to court claiming he was never notified. can he do this? would he really be able to take it to court and be able to say he was notified even though the only thing stating he is the father is my doctor's records when i was pregnant? and can anything happen even though the papers show they have been adopted by my husband?

Answer: You should definitely speak to a Florida adoption attorney about this, but it would appear that he may be able to assert his parental rights. Florida has created a putative father registry and it is a requirement to maintain parental rights that an unmarried father register before a petition to terminate parental rights is filed, which was done when the adoption proceedings began. However, a Florida Supreme Court ruling states that an unmarried father who can be located must be given notice of this requirement before his parental rights can be terminated legally. Since you knew who the father was and presumably where he lived, notice may have been required and failing to notify him could allow him to seek to reestablish his parental rights.

Question: Adoption laws in Ohio? I'll put in plenty of details so you fully understand my question so this may be long On Monday we are supposed to attend a final hearing so my husband can adopt my son from a previous relationship. My son is almost 7 years old and we have not heard from his birth father in 4 years. When my son was born I never put him on the birth certificate because he was not, there had another girl pregnant, was denying paternity and had a chronic track record of domestic violence. After my son was born I did reconnect with him a few times. He met the baby and at one point even gave him a bath. this was all before the age of 1. He never filed for visitation and in 7 years I have never seen a penny, Christmas card or so much as a peanut butter sandwich. As I interpret the law it clearly states that in the State of Ohio all it takes is 1 year with no contact and it's considered abandonment. He was NOT on a putative fathers registry either. Now the reason I am asking is because 3 business days before our hearing he petitioned the adoption. WHY NOW???? Is there anything he can do? He has had plenty of opportunity over the last 6 almost 7 years and he chose not to. Now that my husband wants him all of a sudden his birth father wants him? Please tell me there isn’t much he can do… Also my sons birth father has been convicted of domestic violence 4 times. The 4th time was a 4th degree felony. He was charged with abduction, menacing,, public intox, assault and stalking. He is 30 years old and does not have a GED or a job and has 3 other children by 2 different women. He definitely does not have a halo. I was young and he was “so hot” The only thing good that came out of him was a stunning little boy. Oh yes. We have an attorney. He is in a trial so I have not been able to talk to him. I'll talk to him on Friday. I have been sick to my stomach though and was hoping someone could help me just even a little bit. =) Independant you are a jerk. OBVIOUSLY you didn't read the entire post before spewing out an answer. And YES I would consider him dangerous. His oldest daughter was the one that called 911 this last time he was convicted of domestic violence. He was beating up her mother in front of her. He also abducted the downstairs neighbor when she came up to help and trapped her in the bathroom. Independant you are a jackass. Read the whole post before you blast off an idiotic typical male answer. Yes. I think this is simply to spite me. I don't think he actually WANTS him. My husband has been in his life since he was barely 2 years old. He has ben calling him Daddy for a long time.

Answer: Well, as you know your boy's father is enjoying abusing you once again by jerking you around. From all you say he's obviously an unfit person to be a parent. Too bad you ever reconnected with him. Your problem today is you are a nervous wreck and hate to wait till Friday. You might have to wait for Monday, if you're in the U.S. as Friday is a legal holiday... the 4th of July. Call your attorney's office today and talk to his secretary. Ask her if he has an assistant, or someone who can talk to you to alleviate your suffering from the fears this has dumped on your head. Even though I doubt the birth father has any right, and probably has met the legal requirement for abandonment, that doesn't stop him from harassing you and abusing you once again by making a claim he really has no right to make! He likes to abuse you. He gets off on doing so. Now he's doing it all over again. His actions over the years prove he never had any interest in the baby. Since he had contact with you before your son was age 1, he has known where you were, and if he had any interest, he COULD have given his child some time and attention. He doesn't want the child. He doesn't want a relationship with his son. He just wants to hurt YOU once again. cw