Eternal Marriage

Question: Is there someone in the LDS church that can Prove the doctrine of eternal marriage without the D&C scriptures? D&C 132: 16 16 Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in marriage; but are appointed angels in heaven, which angels are ministering servants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

Answer: OK, this answer wants Bible verses, so that's what I'm giving, so don't spam me here. Here are a few passages to think about. Eccl. 3:14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him. Now, couple that one with Matt. 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And Matt 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Does that help?

Question: Eternal Marriage? The Bible speaks about it. Has anyone read the book "What God hath joined together?" by Harold Camping. It tells us biblical information that couples should never divorce even if the husband is unfaithful to his wife and commits murder or adultery or is gay.

Answer: I think the Bible is such a great book, so great in fact that us common folk are not ready to understand it. My idea of God is someone who loves his creations so much he would not have us put up with cheating wife beaters.

Question: Does it say in the bible whether or not marriage is eternal? My fiance and I were having a discussion on whether or not it is believed that marriage is continued in heaven. So if you know a verse where it answers this question, please let me know. It does say love is eternal, but is marriage?

Answer: The bible does not explicitly say that marriage is eternal. But I know marriage can be for eternity. I have been sealed/married to my wife in a Temple of God through the power of the priesthood by one who has authority given to him by God. This marriage will last not only for this life but for all eternity. Matt 19:6 - Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. If you would like to know more about an eternal marriage please go to LDS.org

Question: Where in the Book of Mormon does it talk about eternal marriage? If there is a passage. Please don't misinterpet this as an insult to the LDS church. I am genuinely curious.

Answer: It seems reasonable to assume that by reading the Book of Mormon you would get a good idea of LDS beliefs. However, despite being the 'keystone' of the Mormon religion, it does not contain any of the unique doctrines that separate Mormonism from traditional Christianity. In fact, much of what the Book of Mormon teaches is contradicted by what the church teaches today. The Book of Mormon teaches one God, not plural gods as in Mormonism. It teaches that God is a spirit not a resurrected man with a physical body. It mentions heaven and hell, not three degrees of glory, no temple marriage or secret temple ceremonies (in fact it condems 'secret combinations'). It does not teach anything about a pre-existence of man, eternal progression or polygamy. Perhaps the most embarrassing thing to the Mormon church concerning the doctrine of baptism for the dead is the Book of Mormon itself. The Book of Mormon is supposed to contain "the fullness of the everlasting Gospel" (see Pearl of Great Price, p.51, v.34). In the Doctrine and Covenants 42:12 we read: "And again, the elders, priests, and teachers of this church shall teach the principles of my gospel, which are in the Bible and the Book of Mormon, in the which is the fulness of the gospel." Even though the Book of Mormon is supposed to contain the "fulness of the gospel," it never mentions the doctrine of baptism for the dead, not even once! The word "baptism" appears twenty-five times in the Book of Mormon. The word "baptize" appears twenty-eight times. The word "baptized" appears eighty-five times, and the word "baptizing" appears six times, but the doctrine of baptism for the dead is not mentioned at all! The excuse that the doctrine of baptism for the dead was removed from the Bible certainly would not prove true in the case of the Book of Mormon. The Catholics never had the Book of Mormon and therefore they could not be charged with removing it. Actually, the Book of Mormon condemns the very ideas that led to the practice of baptism for the dead. It plainly indicates that there is no chance for a person to repent after death if he has known the gospel and has rejected it. Smith wrote the Book of Mormon in the late 1820's. Over the next fifteen years his doctrines underwent radical changes which are seen in his revelations in the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price.

Question: So the prophet Brigham Young gets to keep his 55 wives in Heaven since Mormons believe in eternal marriage? Mormons believe if you are sealed to someone in the temple, you stayed married, so Young gets to keep all 55 wives?

Answer: that's going to be between BY and the wives ( and of course God).

Question: LDS: How does gay marriage outside the church in any way effect the covenant of eternal marriage?

Answer: it doesn't. but then again... what do I know ;) :) Live Laugh Love

Question: For those married, what advice would you give to those engaged and on their way to marriage and eternal bliss? Be kind now.

Answer: Have respect & love for each other. Put each other first. Make your marriage the top priority. Think before you speak in arguments - don't say something you do not truly mean. Encourage each other & support each other. Keep communication open between you two. You can have a happy marriage. Don't listen to those who dis it, marriage is sacred & has not lost it's importance. God bless your marriage!!!

Question: where in the bible does it say that there is eternal marriage in heaven?

Answer: There isn't. Marriage is terminated in heaven. Matthew 22;23 23 That same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question. 24 “Teacher,” they said, “Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and have children for him. 25 Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother. 26 The same thing happened to the second and third brother, right on down to the seventh. 27 Finally, the woman died. 28 Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of them were married to her?” 29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’a? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.”

Question: Mormons: Eternal Marriage - is it true? I don't understand how eternal marriage can be believed? On the mormon website it says "The Bible and the Book of Mormon are the word of God." It also says they believe in eternal marriage ( http://www.mormon.org/learn/0,8672,1597-1,00.html ) and quote Matthew 16:19: "And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." But if you read in six chapters later in Matthew 22:29-30 it says: " Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven" That is a contradicting in beliefs. So as I see it - you either believe the bible or something that man came up with (like the book of mormon). Why claim to believe the bible? When it comes down to it - you have to choose between the two books. So Jesus really meant that those who don't get married in the temple aren't officially married and that's why they aren't given in marriage? Ok - that's what I thought - when I was wacko! C'mon - that doesn't make any sense. God is the one who institued marriage "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh." I didn't write the book - and I'm not going to change around what it says. I guess you can go to the bible and prove whatever you want to when you don't come to God with meekness. "And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free" The truth about this topic will make mormons free in their lives to live with and for God and to put on the greater reality that God's way is the best way - not going against his word. I'm not going to get a deep understanding of the book of mormon when it contradicts the bible. Praise God for a sound mind. Also: How much can someone 'read the story a little better' than(from the bible) "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven"? This applies to the resurrection. You do err not knowing the scriptures (but you do know the book of mormon) nor the power of God.

Answer: No.

Question: Eternal marriage and the Bible? Okay, I tried to ask a Mormon Missionary about this and they disconnected with me without giving me an answer. So, I am going to the general public about this. Hopefully someone can give me a decent answer. So, the LDS viewpoint of marriage is that those sealed in the temple will be married for eternity. Anyone who does not will not be married for eternity. Pretty simple right? Well, let's go to the bible. Mark 12:18-27 18(A)Some Sadducees (who say that there is no resurrection) came to Jesus, and began questioning Him, saying, 19"Teacher, Moses wrote for us that (B)IF A MAN'S BROTHER DIES and leaves behind a wife AND LEAVES NO CHILD, HIS BROTHER SHOULD MARRY THE WIFE AND RAISE UP CHILDREN TO HIS BROTHER. 20"There were seven brothers; and the first took a wife, and died leaving no children. 21"The second one married her, and died leaving behind no children; and the third likewise; 22and so all seven left no children. Last of all the woman died also. 23"In the resurrection, [a]when they rise again, which one's wife will she be? For all seven had married her." 24Jesus said to them, "Is this not the reason you are mistaken, that you do not understand the Scriptures or the power of God? 25"For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. 26"But regarding the fact that the dead rise again, have you not read in the book of Moses, (C)in the passage about the burning bush, how God spoke to him, saying, '(D)I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, and the God of Jacob'? 27"(E)He is not the God of the dead, but of the living; you are greatly mistaken." So, in verse 25 it states that they neither marry or are given in marriage. My questions are: 1. Does this say that Jesus said that there is no marriage in heaven? 2. Are there any passages in the bible that discuss eternal marriage? 3. If there is no harmony between gospels, then who is right? So, the only mormon response I have seen to this question is 1 Peter 3:7?? That passage makes no sense when comparing it to eternal marriage!

Answer: let's focus on Christ's answer Matt 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. it's important to notice that Christ sidesteps the obvious entrapment of the Sadduccees (who as mentioned above did not even believe in the afterlife) to chastise them for not knowing the scripture. He goes on to say God is the God of the living, and not of the dead - further showing them that they have things wrong.....there is an afterlife. He also says that there will be no 'marrying nor being given in marriage'. IOW, it has to be done prior to that - AND by the correct authority, God's. the LDS believe that the bonds of eternal marriage are created under God's authority, and will not be broken unless He determines to break them. we also believe that after the resurrection will be 'too late' - as indicated in scripture here......and we believe that is why God in His wisdom and mercy has provided a time period between death and resurrection where these types of things may be completed. there are passages (like this one) that reference this type of eternal covenants. God gave marriage to Adam and Eve originally, so anytime marriage is mentioned in the bible it is His covenant of marriage being spoken of - but you must remember ---the LDS are operating from an open canon, not a closed one.....IOW, LDS prophets are still entitled to receive clarification and revelation from God concerning His word. the LDS teach the restored gospel from the scriptures -- and that means not the traditionalist collection of man's philosophies, creeds, and theologies invented over the last two thousand years. there is complete harmony between the two books because they are not two gospels, but one - they are both the word of God and they are both His gospel.

Question: Celestion Kingdom and eternal marriage? I'm very confused about something important to me. If we can have polygamous families in Heaven.Then who will be married to whom?I mean people must be married to attain the highest level of glory. I was under the impression in the discussions,anyway.I'm still working on it!I know there are more women going to the Celestial Kingdom than men. This has been stated here many times. Seriously, can anyone help me? I don't doubt this idea, I don't think! But I'm just trying to figure this out. Thanks!

Answer: Whoever it is...it will be YOUR choice.

Question: Are exes proof that God meant for marriage to be eternal? Or are wives proof that he didn't? I'm confused? There seems to be conflicting evidence here.

Answer: the bible says when that when two people have intercourse they become one flesh. so this is the reason God so urgently wants us only to have one partner for life. because he knows the devastating effects of ripping apart 2 people who have become one. anger and bitterness and sorrow always follow.

Question: If heaven is eternal & there's no marriage in heaven, then what's the point of marriage on earth?

Answer: Um...probably because heaven is not real.

Question: Would you consider starting a never ending love journey after marriage? There is a common saying, regardless how true/false, "marriage is the grave of love." Typically, the goal of courtship seems to have ended at the wedding. I feel, after committing to an eternal marriage, then start to love forever and start to court your spouse forever is a better perspective.

Answer: Yes yes yes yes me too. I believe in that too. marriage is a never ending love journey and loyalty and faith matter so much. Are you single perhaps? LOL

Question: Is there an eternal bond in marriage, why is it bad to cheat? In my life I yet to see a couple that lasts longer than 3 years of marriage or know of an old relationship without the presence of the "other" one that most of our society will direct as a "bit==ch". Then, I started thinking about a question I saw in here http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AoyaouAp1dnoND4.mF8h2.MjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20071210090907AAGTvBu And then I thought, kids do suffer because their father or mother are not together anymore, BUT they will suffer anyway if they stay together and they see the constant arguments or release anger that might happen in front of the kids. So really with or without the parent that is cheating kids will suffer anyway, I know I've been there as the part of the kid. Now, my mother while back said that same things as one the people that answer this question, "Why would you want to hurt the other woman that you don't know?" But then I thought about this, that woman, the wife, is already hurt by the husband's infidelity before a sexual act is done!!!!! So really the one that needs to think about this hurting thing is the husband not the other woman he's cheating with. So basically, it is the husband's job to keep the family together not the other woman. Now, I was also in the position where my husband cheated on me and yes it feels so damn hard to keep my chin up. I stopped believing in men but, then I think of this: 1-I must have not done something to interest him enough to keep our relationship intact, and 2- he never cared for me fully as soon he was going to do it with anybody if I let him get away with it, but I didn't. As far as I know he still with her seven years now. So I guess he found his true love. Though he hurt me, why keep a relationship that isn't going to work? So my question is, why keep a relationship with a man that wants or loves someone else? I think it's tiring to use the same cliche about the kids being hurt, I mean they will anyway. I'm not in that type of relationship but I'm tired of hearing this over and over, and I got hurt like this but I understand it better.

Answer: Is there an eternal bond in marriage? I cannot answer that. I believe in the sanctity of marriage, I believe that two people can be together until their dying day, I believe that true love does exist. I think that two ppl who have been together a long time become used to each other and find comfort in the knowledge that the person is there for them, to care, to support, to talk, to listen. Why is it bad to cheat? Well, therein is the answer. It's cheating. I would rather divorce than stay in a marriage if my husband is getting his thrills elsewhere. I have more dignity and self respect than to stay with a man for the 'sake of the children'. What message am I sending my children by doing that? That it is ok for men/women to mess around in a marriage? That is is ok to lie to your spouse? No. The person who you can sit on the porch with in silence and still know what they are saying, that is the one to grow old with:)

Question: Does marriage lead to eternal or temporary happiness? Please explain.?

Answer: It's a small part of the picture of ur life man. Get some perspective and re-think what happiness means to you! But beware...you most likely DON'T KNOW what happiness means to you - yet. So, like many of the rest of us you have to jump off the cliff w/o knowing, make decisions w/o all the proper knowledge and no guarantees! Bummer!...life goes on.

Question: why marriage instead of promised "eternal happiness" always comes out to be end of everything beautiful? my question is probably as old as world itself - but unfortunately nobody I've asked has any answers. You love somedy and think that you will live a live full of happiness together, than you two get married and after maximum 7 years living together you are beginning to understand that all your (and your partner's) feelings are starting to fade away - and there is nothing you can do about it. No romantic dinners or vacation can help to glue together broken peaces of your "once used to be beautiful" relation. some families are just getting used to that and live together just because it became "habit" others break up believing that they can find this so called "eternal love" somewhere else, but still it always has an end. Unfortunately.

Answer: "Eternal happiness" is an unrealistic expectation, and anyone entering a marriage expecting it increases his chances of divorce! Instead, you should enter marriage expecting sometimes or usually to be happy, expecting to work hard on your relationship rather than coast, expecting to have arguments sometimes, expecting you will occasionally hurt each other. Not expecting eternal happiness makes forgiveness easier, takes pressure off the relationship, and allows each partner to remember that he or she will get out of the marriage what is put into it.

Question: How do you think a marriage between two devout Christians should work? No matter how deeply in love with each other they are, do they still need to place God above everything else? How are they to raise their children? Should the woman strictly follow the teachings of figures like St. Paul and be subordinate to the man? Should the man always be the main breadwinner (he may be unable to work i.e. through illness)? Will they meet again after death (after they have both been given eternal life assuming they both truly knew Jesus and repented for their sins) even though the institution of marriage does not exist in heaven?

Answer: King James Version Bible 2 Peter Chapter 1 2. Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, Colossians Chapter 3 19. Husbands, love [your] wives, and be not bitter against them. Mark Chapter 10 6. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 8. And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. Ephesians Chapter 5 29. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: Amos Chapter 3 3. Can two walk together, except they be agreed? Ecclesiastes Chapter 4 11. Again, if two lie together, then they have heat: but how can one be warm [alone]? Matthew Chapter 5 28. But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Luke Chapter 16 18. Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from [her] husband committeth adultery. James Chapter 1 19. Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: Ecclesiastes Chapter 5 2. Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter [any] thing before God: for God [is] in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few. 3. For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice [is known] by multitude of words. Ephesians Chapter 5 1. Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; 3. But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 4. Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 1 Peter Chapter 3 10. For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile: Titus Chapter 2 2. That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. Proverbs Chapter 23 20. Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh: 21. For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe [a man] with rags. 1 Timothy Chapter 3 3. Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous 1 Timothy Chapter 5 22. Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure. 23. Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

Question: Is it best to live with a partner before marriage? I think it is to my benefit to live with someone before I marry them. To see how you interact in close quarters and if you can stand each other every day. I am NOT religious and I think marriage is just a piece of paper. It is the eternal love and commitment that counts, which is rare but possible. I read somewhere though that people who live together prior to marriage are more likely to get divorced. Have no clue why. get sick of each other faster? What do you think? is it best to live with someone before marriage?

Answer: No. Marry them first. Peace.

Question: Do you believe marriage can be eternal? Can love really last forever? Yesterday, I heard that my best friend's parents are getting divorced after 25 years. My goal for relationships has currently been 2 years, because that is when 'attraction' ends for most couples. Ten years into a relationship I thought was smooth sailing; her parents were deeply in love 10 years ago. Her mother told me their relationship started out very physical, but that comes and goes, and that in the long run it's friendship that pulls you through rocky times, and if you don't have that basis it'll always be difficult. Considering that some of my friendships only last 3 or 4 years, how in the world do you make love last forever? Up until now it's always been a 'romantic' idea, but now I'm seriously wondering if it's even possible. Considering these things, the thought/belief that love can last forever has never sounded more profound.

Answer: Marriage is not always an easy process. As a minister, I prefer to council couples before I officiate their wedding. I try to explain to them that marriage is a give and take partnership. It is sometimes very hard work. Early in a relationship is when we feel the most sexual attraction to our significant other. Over time these feelings fade, but other feelings replace them. Such as feelings of love, friendship and loyalty. As the feelings of sexual attraction fades, we should attempt to do more to maximize these other feelings. Marriage can last a lifetime, it just takes the effort of both involved. It will not always be easy, but it is worth the effort in the long run. God Bless! +?+