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Public Adoption Agency
This is a term that refers to a rather broad group of state and county adoption agencies that bear a wide variety of names, depending on the particular provisions of the laws in their state, such as The Department of Human Services, The Department of Social Services, and The Department of Children and Family Services. These agencies are responsible under the provisions of state law for placing waiting children from foster care or other institutional care settings into the homes of adoptive families. They are generally funded by state tax dollars, although they may also receive federal tax support, and can place their children with adoptive families that live in or out of their state.
Question: i did not find any results on Bruneian Terrence's can i have the name of a public adoption agency in trinidad?
Answer: If you do a search for Trinidad agencies, there are plenty out there.
Question: What is the ratio of children placed by public adoption agencies to those placed by private agencies? Is it about 2 to 1, 10 to 1, 50 to 1 or several hundreds to 1?
Answer: Complete and correct records of adoptions within the USA have not been collected since 1992.
The Evan B Donaldson Adoption Institute states -
"..........states are not legally required to record the number of private, domestic adoptions. "
Check out this site for more details -
http://www.adoptioninstitute.org/researc…
Question: Information about public fostering and adoption? As someone considering adoption, I've obviously been researching extensively to better educate myself and one of the conclusions that I've come to is that before seriously considering international adoption I should seriously consider adoption within the U.S. I watched some clips from Adopted the Movie (I think that's what it's called) and it was definitely informative. When I say U.S. adoption I am not necessarily talking about private agency, newborn adoption. I want to research public adoption and fostering. Does anyone have any advice about this path? Does anyone have any good resources that they can recommend I take a look at?
Answer: Dear Angela;
We are fostering-to-adopt a little boy through the state. We have had a wonderful experience with the entire process, though many in here have had differing experiences. We did not opt for the parents' rights to be terminated (TPR) before our child was placed in our home....mainly b/c it can take years for that to happen....and the child will simply wait in foster care. State agencies do not place children in adoptive homes who have a high probability of being returned to their first parents. Those children usually remain in foster care....and are not adoptable. Our child's mother hasn't seen her child in 11 months, and he is 14 months old. B/C neglect is considered grounds for TPR....along with the other factors of her case.....it is highly unlikely that she will ever regain custody. Parents, grandparents, other relatives are all contacted for placement before the child is available for adoption to an outside source.
In most states, you must wait 1 full year before the adoption is finalized....primarily b/c the agency will need to make regular visits and be positive that the child is flourishing under your care.
Our process (paperwork, background, homestudy, and training) took 11 months. After that you wait. We waited a mere 3 months for our call....but depending on the specifics of your requests, you could wait longer. If you are seeking a white baby, you will likely wait for a while. We requested a child that could communicate and bond with us...regardless of race, sex, age, etc.
Anyway, there is a ton more to say, but the best place to go is probably your local CPS. I can't say enough about our case workers and their love and devotion to our child. I also can't tell you how truly unbelievable our child is and how much joy he brings to our lives. His road will be hard as he seeks out his identity and deals with his losses....but we will be there with him and for him every step of the way.
<<adoptive mommy through foster care.
Question: Public adoption in Quebec? Hello....I'm looking for information on public adoption agencies in Quebec. Ones that are adopting out Quebec children not international ones. So far all i can find are agencies that are for international adoptions.
I know in other provinces the Children's Aid Society handles public adoptions, however the Quebec version of the Children's Aid Society does not seem to have any information regarding becoming a foster or adoptive parent. Please if anyone can give me any information on the subject let me know!
thanks for the link but this is still NOT what im looking for. what I am looking for is the name of the agency that handles public adoptions and foster-to-adopt. this website just says that the programs are available without giving the names on the organizations that RUN them.
Answer: Well, I don't even speak the language but a simple google search using "Quebec, foster parents" as the search words turned up the link posted below. It seems to mention foster to adopt programs as well as other Provincial adoption mechanisms under "Adoption in Quebec" half way down the page.
Question: Has anyone adopted through a public agency? Hi,
My husband and I are considering adoption in our future. We are looking to adopt and infant or toddler. Due to the fact that our combined incomes barely pass $23,000 a year, we are hoping to find an option we can afford. I read somewhere that adopting through a public agency is much cheaper than adopting through a private agency or internationally (hundreds of dollars instead of thousands of dollars). I have long desired to adopt (my husband is on board, but I think he probably hadn't thought of it much before he met me). Does anyone have any experience adopting through a public agency? If so, did it meet your expectations? Was it manageable for you, monetarily? We are hoping to adopt a child who is quiet tempermentally, like we are, with no major special needs.
Thanks.
Answer: For adoption, my suggestion is foster care. I was a special needs foster parent for years. You say you want a child with a peaceful temperament and with county foster care you can adopt children this way. A lot of times infants and toddlers come into foster care through no fault of their own and are released for adoption. A child's mental makeup is growing and moldable until they are at the earliest 4 years of age. I strongly recommend foster care. You might have to give up a child or two in the beginning because they get reunified, true, but it will prepare you for parenthood in the long run and when that right child comes along you will be able to adopt for virtually no fees. My prayers are with you, best wishes =)
Question: Any pointers for someone adopting from a public agency? Anyone know of any good sources for assistance after adoption? Or things that are available to the kids as they get older, like college funding, etc. We want to be able to offer them whatever is out there for them.
Also, any suggestions about how to discuss their adoption with them in the future, dealing with birth parents, etc.. Just general advice from those of you who have done this.
Answer: Are you adopting from the state? Follow-up assistance varies from state to state so you would want to get on their website. Though, I think Adoption Journeys are nationwide so you might want to check with them. I'm in MA and the state will cover full tuition for my daughter as long as she attends a state college.
My daughter was 9 when i adopted her so I have not had to tell her about it. As far as the birth parents go - I do not demonize her birth mother. They still have written contact and bi-annual visitation. However, she needs someone to focus her anger on so I do allow her negative feelings toward her biological father who has expressed zero interest in ever seeing her again (no question that he is her father - she looks exactly like him).
Question: What school do children at an adoption agency go to? Since children at an adoption agency don't have parents, how do they get educated? Are they educated at a public school or at the agency?
If a child has special needs, does the agency care for those needs? Is a counselor/pschologist brought to the agency or is the child brought to them? Does the agency pay for them?
Also, sort of a tacked-on question, but what does an adoption agency look like on the interior, anyways? Where do the kids go... and where do their caretakers at the agency (what are they called?) allow the children to meet their possible future parents?
Thank you for your answer. It was short and to the point.
Is the agency a place or is it just the name of the group that takes care of the legal aspects of adoption?
Can the parents, if they want to, go to meet the child at the foster home/orphanage/etc. then?
Answer: An "agency" is a "child placement business" and it may be an office or a website or both. some agencies offer foster care for children, but the children are not living at the agency.
The agency may place children with foster families who are paid through the state/county or through grants that are privately funded as well, by charitable groups. Fees paid by adoptive parents also fund agencies.
children generally attend public school...unless they cannot.They may need to attend another type of educational situation.
legal aspects are handled by attorneys retained by the agencies. The court system handles the placements for adoption as well as the terminations of natural parents' rights.
There are federal grant moneys and 'entitlements" available for "special needs" for a variety of services for children in agency foster care.
Some "special needs" assistance will continue after the child is adopted.
Question: Do you remember stories of fires or floods destroying adoption-related records in public places? Hi,
Do you think it's a coincidence that disasters seemed to hit courthouses, agencies, hospitals, etc. places with adoption-related infomation at a higher rate of frequency than other places?
Do you think some of the disaster stories could have been attempts to prevent others from attempting to search for information?
If you have been told your records were destroyed, are you aware records usually exist in more than one location?
Thanks for all thoughts on this.
Answer: Truly isn't it odd that all of our records seem to either be burnt up, lost in a flood, or in the "archives" of another building located in an entirely different place than the agency itself? I can tell you from taking Records Information Management classes, that records of this type are never discarded, more often than these days they are scanned and placed in a computer system. In older casest they should be on microfich and there should also be hard copies kept. The agency I used still has not found my records, sadly when they moved their office, they were either lost or stored incorrectly and can not be found. How coneveniet! I call once a week, every week to demand what is mine legally, by Illinois law itself and have yet to receive a single document including the form is signed to surrender my child. Next step, an attorney! Maybe then I will get my records...Or mayber there really was a fire or flood or they got lost in transit.. Yeah right and if ya'll believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell you!
My daughter finally got her non-id when she sent a request via registered and certified mail. She quoted Illinois state law in regards to Non-ID information and gave them a thirty day deadline. She did get some of her information, but was told the rest of it was in my file, which of course was lost in transit, or a fire, or a flood.. WTF?
Question: What are the pros & cons comparing private domestic adoption vs. going with state foster care to adopt? I was adopted from Korea. Now that I'm grown and married, my husband and I think we'd like to one day adopt even if we can have biological children. We haven't "tried" yet! :) Adoption is obviously something close to my heart. My brother & SIL adopted about 2 years ago - private, domestic. The adoption cost them around $13,000 upfront. My husband & I aren't looking to adopt right now but hearing that cost is alarming! While we'd love to adopt at some point, it's hard to think we'd ever be able to afford that price! Is it "cheaper" to adopt through the state foster agencies instead of doing an expensive private adoption agency? I know that sounds horrible but I'm just thinking about options. Are there many kids 2 and under in public foster agencies though? From what I hear, many kids in those agencies have disabilities or are born with addictions. Is that just a stereotype?! It sounds like one!
FYI, we would be willing to adopt any race really. So, what are the pros and cons of going private versus using the state agencies?
Answer: Private
Pro:
Can adopt infants easier
Can be faster
Can choose the natural parents (no drugs, racial, etc)
Con:
Expensive
Some private agencies are somewhat unscrupulous
Foster
Pro:
Inexpensive
Social responsibility (helping kids in need)
Con:
Some kids come from neglect or abuse (and so have developmental delays or behavioral problems)
Dealing with the state can get annoying
We went through the Foster system, personally, I believe it is the better option.
Question: Should child adoption be genuinely free of charge in the USA? Laws in the United States forbid the sale of children. Baby selling for instance is a very serious offense. Yet it is not possible in the vast majority of cases to adopt a child in the United States without spending thousands of dollars on a variety of fees and costs, even when children are adopted through public (state) agencies. Many thousands of children in the United States who are available for adoption remain unadopted. Should adoption in the USA be genuinely free of charge?
Answer: A small charge is a good way to make sure people are serious about adopting.
Compared to the cost of raising a child, a few thousand dollars is a very small charge.
Baby selling is criminal not because adoptions should be free but because people should not have perverse incentives to bear children. Paying for children would encourage people to have children just to sell them. Paying an agency to process the adoption is not going to have the same inducement.
Question: Is fostering and/or foster-to-adopt children the "public" option? Compared to adopting a child through an adoption agency?
No, does "public" mean low-income? I think not. It just means NOT private.
Answer: Assuming you mean literally:
State foster care and foster-adoption are run by the government with public funds (from taxes,) so yes, it is the public option.
Agencies, whether or not they can technically claim non-profit status, are privatized and not subsidized by public funds. Agencies are private businesses.
Sometimes agencies will work with the state to place foster children, but the agency is still a private organization. So in terms of legalities, you're right about public versus private.
Question: Has anyone gone through the adoption process in Idaho? My wife and i are looking to adopt. Because it will be our first child preferablly and infant. I understand that therre are many children in need out there and our hope is to love and care for as many as we can honestly. However for our first we would prefer an infant so that we can have as much of the actual experience as possible. After many years of trying to concieve we have decided to open our home up to a child in need of love and would appreciate any help we could get. Is there a better organization than Idaho Youth Ranch. They seem to be the only public agency in the area. We are looking for adoption right now but would consider foster care later.
Thank you for any help.
Answer: Hi Werpaps,
You might want to try some of these links I found for adoption and foster care in your state of Idaho.
http://www.healthandwelfare.idaho.gov/_R…
http://www.healthandwelfare.idaho.gov/po…
http://www.idahochild.org/
http://www.healthandwelfare.idaho.gov/_R…
http://www.fostercaremonth.org/AboutFost…
Hope that information helps.
julie j
reunited adoptee
Question: Describe a social policy that may affect your future position as a human services worker ? Compare and contrast how public versus a private organization might address this policy differently. include an explanation of how the delivery system of a public organization would be different than that of a private organization. for placement agency and private adoption agency in the way they deliver their adoption services?
Consider how you could influence this policyto meet your clients needs. if you work for a government organization, you may not be able to lobby, but what other ways could you advocate for your client population
Answer: it depends on the country u r in. in some countries, there's no diff. both r corrupted and hence policies and whats at the ground is totally different.
some govt agencies are concerned with legalities whereas the pte ones lesser. they just want the paperwork done, and $$ paid. so its best that there's check and balance in both systems to ensure fairness. in s america, india, china babies are kidnapped and sold. we dont want that to happen.
Question: If someone was wrongly convicted in GA of animal cruelty where do i go for help? Is there a non-profit agency? I am looking for a non profit agency or someone that can lead us in the right direction.Two friends of mine was charged and convicted of 23 counts of animal cruelty. They were all small dogs and one of them did not work so he was always home with the dogs. They were always feed, cleaned-up after and loved. Their house was raided and each dog was put into pet adoption agencies and have been SOLD for profit for these agencies. All 23 dogs were healthy and clean. They are dog lovers and just wants to give each one of them a forever home. They were denied a public defender and was sentenced to 5 years probation, major fines, and are never allowed to have animals again. Please...if you have any info or know anyone that can help please let me know.
PLEASE DO NOT EMAIL ME ANY RUDE COMMENTS...I JUST WANT TO HELP THEM.
Answer: how many dogs were they allowed to have by local ordiance? Sounds like they might have exceeded the limit. If they did, there is nothing you can do about it and it is then not be considered a wrongful conviction. animals that are sold are not sold for profit. Pet adoption agencies that seize animals, have to have a vet check them, people to look after them and feed them. Public defenders are given to you, based on your income. If they have been convicted, they should have retained a lawyer to appeal it. It might be too late. Usually you have 30 days depending on the state to appeal a conviction. They could talk to their county bar association or state assemblyman for help. Cruelty is a very general term. If they had a overcrowding of animals, that could be considered cruelty.
Question: Is the adoption industry okay for YOUR daughter? With what you know about the adoption industry are you comfortable with your daughter's (or son's) ability to stand up to the pressures that they might face if an "unplanned pregnancy" would occur and they were not in a long term relationship (god forbid, not married)? Are you comfortable knowing the tactics, (ie: couseling) that agencies, social workers, and adoption attorneys may be "applying" to YOUR daughter or son? Are you happy that adoption is being pushed to high school students in public schools as an alternative to parenting?
I know some of you may think that "nothing like this could ever happen to US", but if you can get beyond that and see what coercion and injustices are out there waiting for your children to come face to face with, do you feel even a little bit scared for them?
Answer: No, adoption ends with me.
Not suprised the APs here have 'no problem' with their daughters giving their children up for adoption.
It's not like it's a grandchild that's related to them...
Question: i want to know if a public notice was advertised in newton county news paper concerning an adoption? this adoption took place march 21 1988 in fulton county ga. fathers name james bowen mother nena maria hicks the agency was named friends of children inc.
Answer: Can't you call the Newton County court house maybe a clerk can tell you. I'm sure the have to keep some kind of doc for public notice. Or Call local newspapers maybe for a small fee they can let you see there old newspapers.
Question: How Many Pregnant Woman Are Asked to Give Their Baby up for Adoption without Seeking Adoption Info? There is some information given over on the Adoption Questions section suggesting that Young Pregnant Women are attacked by baby stealing Adoption Agencies and attacked by People wanting to Adopt their baby.
My Question is to those who might be Young and Pregnant who have NOT even considered Adoption--Have you been Solicited here or in real life by Adoption Businesses or Interested Adoptive Parents to give them your baby?
Do you know what a "Dear Birth Mother" Letter is?
Do people email you telling you they want your baby--even if you have never mentioned Adoption as one of the choices you might make?
For those pregnant whom have never had contact with an Adoption Professional--or people interested in Adopting your baby do you Feel like you are being Solicited to place a baby for adoption?
Just interested if the General Public of young mothers are attacked by the evil Adoption People---or Not?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?…
If you feel that you cannot post an answer here in public will you please just email me and let me know that you have been asked to place your baby for adoption... I will Not tell who you are--I just would like to know if this REALLY is a problem in 2008?
Answer: I think some people are desperate and it is sad what they will do money. I agree if someone wants to adopt their child out, they really should do research or choose a family they KNOW will take care of their child. I don't like adoption agencies either...they also want the money! It is rediculous how expensive it is to adopt a child! The whole system is out of whack!
Question: Hoping to adopt? My partner and I are in the process of getting our homestufy finished up and have been in contact with a few public and private adoption agencies. At this point because of being a same sex couple, age differences, and my partner having a disability, we are only looking at Domestic Adoptions (though in the future we may look internationally).
We are looking not only at infants but (younger) children in foster care. We are planning on hiring a private adoption agent or working with an agency.
We are also considering putting a profile online to perspective birthmothers. However many of the places I have found charge RIDICULOUS amounts of money to host your profile. It would be cheaper for us to just start a webpage of our own!
Does anyone know any recourses for profiles of couples hoping to adopt? Gay friendly would be helpful...
Answer: I posted a whole list here once but now can't find it. There are many, but most don't get enough traffic, even if they're free. The largest, Parent Profiles, unfortunately doesn't allow gay or lesbian couples. In fact when they were sued under CA anti-discrimination laws they decided they would rather NOT ALLOW CA couples at all rather than allow gay and lesbian profiles.
Might I suggest researching Independent Adoption Center at http://www.adoptionhelp.org
They appear to be (I have only reviewed their site) fairly respectful and ethical in their dealings with expectant moms, do not discriminate for adoptive couples, and have a decent profile site. Also they only do open adoptions which I think is preferable
Question: thoughts on 'adoption' reform? Now, its no secret that a lot of folks here have issues with adoption, and its no secret that there are major issues with the way adoption is carried out. Coercion, paying for babies, identity tampering, etc. I was wondering if anyone had put any hard thought into what reforms should be made, and what changes should be made. I am coming from a stand point where some alternate guardianships are needed for whatever reason. So, What are the top 5 things that should be changed to make adoption better? Do you think they can be achieved through education and activism, or do you think it would require complete government originated overhaul? I am curious to see what people's ideas are. As for me, I am going to go with...
1. Openness. No adoptive parents should be allowed to decide if they should tell their child they were adopted or not. They should be required to tell the child they were adopted, and if they child wants to know then the situation surrounding their adoption.
2. The child's name not be changed unless it by their own choice later in life. Their birth parent's names be available if the birth parents are willing to be contacted, and a medical history with ethnic heritage should they not be.
3. Counciling for mothers considering giving up their children before they make the choice by unbiased professionals. Easy access to information about any financial aid programs, support groups, etc that might be available to them if they are considering due to a financial situation.
4. Enforcement of open adoptions. Any signed document promising visits, photos, letters, etc be legally binding, and breakable only by proof of abuse or endangerment. However, I feel that if the natural parent consistently fails to keep appointments, etc, then it should be revisited for the emotional welfare of the child.
5. No more for profit adoption agencies. Yes, financial security should be a factor in placements, but not the only one. More follow up visits after adoption, and therapy available for adoptees who feel they would benefit from it.
I think that with public education the first two are possible, the second two would need radical government interference, but that the last is almost impossible - even if its taken over by the government, people want to make money off of what they could. Maybe some kind of system where adoption fees went into charities to help underprivileged parents keep their kids...
any thoughts?
Mnemosyne - thats actually one of the reasons I think that alternate guardianship is needed, some people just don't want kids. Its been my experience that people who grow up knowing they were adopted are better off emotionally then people who have it sprung on them as adults. Its a little like being lied to your whole life, which adds trust issues to any abandonment issues some adoptees feel.
Also, unbiased counciling isn't the same as pressuring women not to have abortions, its allowing the woman an unbiased platform to discuss her options, someone to talk to who she doesn't feel is judging her. I think a lot of women who have abortions would benefit from counciling also - not because they shouldn't have them, but because its a difficult choice and a life changing thing that few people are equiped to deal with on their own - just like adoption. I am actually pro-adoption and a happy adoptee - but I think the system needs some work so people aren't victimized.
Answer: Need to start a nonprofit organization with a strong agenda for change and to overpower NCFA.
The current adoption industry may need to be taken down before quality change will happen.
Question: Could I please get clarification on the term "private adoption"? Over the last several months, I have heard references made to "private adoption".
I would like to know what it actually means where you are and whether it is allowed or to what point it is allowed. Here is my understanding of the different meanings and I appreciate you filling the blanks.
1) CANADA: Private adoption/Private domestic adoption: Whether or not an agency or licensee is involved...YOU MUST DO A HOMESTUDY and qualify with the Ministry of the Province where you reside. It involves adopting from within Canada (even the US is considered International) but not through the PUBLIC/Foster system. It is allowed through the restrictions of an approved homestudy and legal steps.
US: Private Adoption: Not going through any agency but finding your own match (whether adopting or relinquishing) and just using a lawyer or law firm for the legal steps. No homestudy required. It is allowed.
Re: US...please tell me if adopting from an agency with matching is included here.
UK: All children put up for adoption go through the PUBLIC system...so no Private Adoptions are allowed by law.
Any other jurisdiction...I don't know anything about and would like to know more. Any errors from the above....please let me know.
Thanks everyone!
Answer: Let me add one thing... there are SOME places/states and SOME circumstances under which a private adoption can be completed without a home study. This is contrary to what at least one regular contributor to this section often/always says (possibly more, but she says it at least once a week).
If there is an agency involved (which is, as Kate and Annabelle mentioned, is "private" as in, not public) a home study must be done UNLESS the adoption is within a family or the adopters have a previously-completed "successful" adoption with a home study (yeah, like nothing ever changes... pppfffffllt!)
If there is no agency involved (self-matched, lawyers only, doctor facilitated, in-family, etc.) a home study can often be 'by-passed' if the lawyer(s) work the correct angle (sadly).
My little sister was adopted through what I usually call "private adoption" -- no agency, doctor-facilitated, only ONE lawyer (which stinks to high heaven, IMHO) -- and our older brother and I were adopted through what I call "private agency adoptions". There was an agency, money changed hands, we were both adopted as newborns. *sigh* Our adoptive parents only ever had ONE home study completed -- for their first adoption (older brother). They adopted me through the same agency (LDS social services) so the agency 'waived' the home study -- LEGALLY -- because they had a previous "successful" adoption. They didn't have a home study for my little sis, either. I can assure you that they never would have passed one. I would have ratted out their abuse in half-a-heartbeat and I think (though I'm not 100% sure) that brother would have, too.
With my little sis, I was 8 (almost 9) years old so I remember most details of her adoption with extreme clarity. Our APs got a call during the daytime on a Friday. They were told that a baby (yet to be born) could be placed with them if they could be in [her birth city] within two days. She was 'due' the day after the call but ultimately came 4 days later. The day of the call, they picked me up from school (I didn't even get to go home) and we were on our way to another state -- I had no warning, no preparation, nothing. I didn't even know they wanted/were planning to adopt again. They had already been DQ'd by their former agency because of age so it was never discussed as an option -- it just happened.
There was no home study, no social worker visit (before or after), no 'checks' of any kind to see if/how she was adjusting -- nada.
6 days after the call, we were home with "our" new baby. Bing Bang Boom.
I have a friend who adopted a baby (sans agency) less than 3 years ago -- no home study there, either -- just lawyers and a judge.
It happens. It happened in the past and still does today.
Sick!
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